Is Star Wars Episode IX’s ‘Dark Fate’ to Wind Up ‘Terminated’?

Does the box office bomb of Terminator: Dark Fate foreshadow the box office for Episode IX?  Let’s explore this question a bit.


So for those who don’t know, Terminator: Dark Fate is bombing embarrassingly with a $28 Million dollar weekend.  Scott Mendelson from Forbes writes:


Box Office: ‘Terminator’ Bombs Again As ‘Dark Fate’ Nabs Apocalyptic $11 Million Friday

Even with James Cameron and Linda Hamilton reuniting with Arnold Schwarzenegger in an R-rated sequel which stole from the Star Wars: The Force Awakens playbook, Terminator: Dark Fate once again failed to avoid Judgment Day because audiences just don’t care about the Terminator as a brand, an IP or a franchise.

Terminator: Dark Fate faced judgement day once again yesterday, earning just $10.6 million on Friday. The sci-fi sequel, directed by Tim Miller, produced by James Cameron, and starring franchise vets Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger alongside newbies Mackenzie Davis, Natalia Reyes and Gabriel Luna, was the third attempt to revive the Terminator series in a decade. McG’s Terminator: Salvation, a future war sequel starring Christian Bale, earned just $125 million domestic and $375 million on a $200 million budget. Alan Taylor’s Terminator: Genysis, a time-twisting retcon that paired Schwarzenegger with Emilia Clarke and Jai Courtney, earned $89 million domestic and $441 million worldwide on a $155 million budget, including $113 million in China.


I would argue that a big problem the IP has had, is sticking to the story.  Most Terminator fans would probably like to see the future war as depicted in T1 and T2 with John Connor leading the human fighters.  Not any kind of retcon.  It’s not rocket science.  It really isn’t.



Some think that the moronic statements from Tim Miller may have had something to do with driving people away.  There was this ridiculous headline from Indiewire for instance:


Tim Miller Says ‘Terminator: Dark Fate’ Will ‘Scare the F*ck’ Out of Misogynistic Internet Trolls


This was an incredibly stupid statement to make about a movie franchise that has been around for 40 years – with a strong female lead.  I mean, who on Earth did Tim Miller think he was being brave and bold against?


We already saw the “Herminator” 16 years ago…


But while this amusing comment may or may not have had anything to do with driving fans away, I have to wonder if something else did most of the work here.  And that is contained in this sentence from Scott Mendelson:


Tim Miller’s Terminator: Dark Fate, following the Star Wars: The Force Awakens playbook, is the third strike for the sci-fi series that won’t die and can’t live.


That’s not a good thing, Scott.  The general consensus of The Force Awakens has diminished greatly in the shadow of The Last Jedi.  But this was a commonplace comparison all over the internet before the release of the movie:



And that’s just from the first two pages of the Google search.


So the question then becomes; If people weren’t willing to turn out to a Terminator movie that was repeatedly compared to The Force Awakens in the media, then what does that foreshadow for the box office of The Rise Of Skywalker in a month and a half?


How many people read these comparisons to The Force Awakens and said, “Nah, I’m not sitting through that.”





Originally published here.

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